Pay to victory is a case in gaming (usually MMOs or giant Multiplayer online games) wherein companies allow you to buy item or advantages with genuine money the cannot be acquired normally by play the game. An exception to the rule is the if an item/advantage can be derived in-game however the acquisition time is unreasonably long, that can additionally be thought about Pay to Win.

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You have the right to be assured they will expand the device by an additional 50 or 100 levels and an ext stone slots, and also another tier the stones to keep them paying..., sorry i typical farming.



ok i have actually to explain it an ext slowly: imagine every solitary player is able to operation everything and still has actually some open spots in the team. Guess what? there is no solitary player left who is buyi



Nagisa there are minimal spots in rankings and not anyone will get that high best off the bat quick enough, especially if they're a new player. You only have to look at unity mechanism to


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Pay to success is a case in gaming (usually MMOs or massively Multiplayer online games) whereby companies enable you come buy items or benefits with genuine money that cannot be derived normally by play the game. An exemption to the ascendancy is the if an item/advantage deserve to be obtained in-game but the acquisition time is unreasonably long, that can additionally be thought about Pay to Win.


the only thing that might take unreasonably lengthy is awakened legend unity stones. Then ns agree. There"s naught else the takes "unreasonably" long. Prefer i stated compare Korea"s bns and also EU/NA"s bns and tell me again the it"s p2w. It"s yes, really not.



the only thing that could take unreasonably lengthy is awakened legendary unity stones. Then i agree. There"s nothing else the takes "unreasonably" long. Favor i claimed compare Korea"s bns and also EU/NA"s bns and tell me again that it"s p2w. It"s yes, really not.


ofcourse pre was far better that"s obvious. Yet this quiet is not p2w. At most it"s pay 2 progress. Trove doesn"t provide anything u can"t farm various other than outfits. Very same with RNG boxes.


ofcourse pre was much better that"s obvious. But this still is no p2w. At most it"s pay 2 progress. Trove doesn"t give anything u can"t farm other than outfits. Same with RNG boxes.


There is no point to begin the video game with the words. If you pay, you obtain power. And also i not really care what part ppl can achieve in your unlimited complimentary time. They room still a tiny minority and never must be a base for any kind of statement. Its choose someone completed a marathon under 2 hours, therefore everyone can do the from now.

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And like numerous other football player said: that is P2W.

We all play in EU/NA so us judge about our region. And just due to the fact that KR is an ext p2w (in your opinion) doesn"t do EU/NA an ar "not P2W".

 

Why is it that hard for friend to expropriate the fact that people have an ext than her (old) meaning of P2W?

 


I provided you ONE example, yet you merely ignored it: Awaken Ascension Stone. Same with boxes indigenous F10 now.


u"re play an MMO a korean one aswell u will mean to operation a pair marathons. You are bound to need a the majority of time to acquire close come max gear. If u dont have actually time is that the games fault? That"s a factor why there"s salary to progression in this game. A many of human being work. It s okay u don"t have time? we provide u the option to pay money therefore u have the right to still enjoy this game. again the an oriental MMO what deserve to u expect. If u dont have them time don"t play. If u desire to play but don"t have actually time. U have actually an option to pay. And also even then doing ur dailies and also weeklies once u can and also a pair dungs a main doesn"t take the much.

 

U guys acting choose it takes periods to get Semi-Max equipment like i claimed which is more than enough to carry out anything in this game.


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2 minute ago, CrazyDude90 said:

We every play in EU/NA so we judge around our region. And just due to the fact that KR is more p2w (in your opinion) doesn"t make EU/NA region "not P2W".


I never ever said that was mine argument. I simply said. Look in ~ Korea and also call EU/NA p2w again.

 


3 minutes ago, CrazyDude90 said:

Why is that that hard for you to accept the reality that people have much more than your (old) meaning of P2W?


it is literally not, new or old meaning of it.

 

and why is it tough for you to expropriate the difference in between u guys"s opinion of the moment that the takes to acquire to Semi-Max gear. And also mine. I think i have sufficient experience in gearing in any kind of way to recognize if it"s undoable or not and also to be really honest i nearly never carry out pve and i to be still able come pull numerous DPS and also have a large impact in 6v6.


6 minute ago, CrazyDude90 said:
51 minute ago, Nagisa Yuki said:

the only thing that could take unreasonably lengthy is awakened legendary unity stones. Then i agree. There"s nothing else the takes "unreasonably" long. Choose i claimed compare Korea"s bns and EU/NA"s bns and also tell me again that it"s p2w. It"s yes, really not.


gave friend ONE example, yet you merely ignored it: Awaken Ascension Stone. Same with boxes from F10 now.


i addressed it here. Probably read very first before u talk about something.


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vor 6 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

U guys acting like it takes periods to get Semi-Max gear


vor 4 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

and why is it difficult for you to expropriate the difference between u guys"s opinion of the moment that the takes to gain to Semi-Max gear. And mine


good that ns talked around max gear and also not semi-max equipment like you.^^

Every "normal" player want to with max gear and this have to be possible in an acceptable and reasonable time imo.

Why need to you desire to reach 80% when you can reach more?

Many football player in MMORPG"s desire to reach more. And also thats fine. Since it is one MMO and also its common that civilization want to reach max gear.

But in B&S NCWe$t/NC$oft made plenty of parts of the game harder top top purpose. A lot people stopped in ~ your referred to as "semi max" gear because the rest is "unreasonably" long.


vor 1 Minute schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

Look in ~ Korea and also call EU/NA p2w again.


it is still p2w for human being in our region. (No matter what KR have).

You to compare 2 various regions and 2 different player types. 


vor 5 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

I think i have enough experience in gearing in any kind of kind of method to recognize if it"s undoable or not


Trust me. I also have sufficient experience. Ns am playing since alpha until now. Without any kind of breaks and without any kind of money spend on gear.^^

 


vor 20 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

I never ever said the was mine argument. I simply said. Look in ~ Korea and also call EU/NA p2w again.


"Look at Korea and also call EU/NA p2w again." how it sound to me: -> "look in ~ KR. The is P2W no what EU/NA have." Sounds prefer an argument/statement.


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does it issue that much to friend to obtain max gear. Room you that bothered by the; lets count, about 5 people are totally maxed geared reason they prefer to assistance this video game with money? allows be ethical they need the money. And does that hurt any kind of of the other players come not have semi max gear instead of max? Im talking about semi max gear cause there is close come no reason to obtain max gear it"s no worth that if u"re not simply wanting to aid the video game out. Imo

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1 hour ago, Nagisa Yuki said:

the just thing that could take unreasonably long is awakened legendary unity stones. Then ns agree. There"s nothing else that takes "unreasonably" long. Like i stated compare Korea"s bns and also EU/NA"s bns and tell me again that it"s p2w. It"s yes, really not.


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creating one of these price 512 juwel powders, (excluding the expense of the previous gems) 

one powder prices 28 gold best now, it is 14-15k Gold simply for among these, acquiring powder is almost impossible in the continual game, you deserve to basically only buy them for HM coins.

And yet ns see civilization having 6 of these in their weapon.


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vor 16 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

does it matter that much to friend to acquire max gear.


I mean: Why should you not desire to achieve everything in a GAME? It"s normal. Its a game and no 2nd life and shouldn"t be a 2nd "work". Imo.^^

 


vor 16 Minuten schrieb Nagisa Yuki:

Im talking around semi max gear reason there is close come no reason to get max gear it"s no worth the if u"re not simply wanting to aid the video game out. Imo


i know your suggest but the bulk of players desire to accomplish everything in a GAME. And thats understandable imo. :)

 


vor 6 Minuten schrieb Arohk:

And yet i see civilization having 6 of these in their weapon.


MANY people. And practically EVERYONE dont crafted this gems... They got it from trove. And BTW: they have actually this gems for PVE and PVP! Absolutly no achievable because that the bulk of players.

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i dont play pve save that in mind. I make 15k in 2 maybe if i dont play much 3 weeks. 15k because that a Dyad which is not that necesarry. Again. MAX equipment IS OPTIONAL. However lets assume u desire it so badly u"ll rubbish ur yellow on dyads. Honestly ns play this video game a long time and also it"s been much more than enough to have complete tri gems. Again if u desire to spend 15k for favor 12 an ext ap. U need to do it. If u dont? u"re still an excellent to go. It"s not favor u can"t perform the newest dungeons.

 

again again and again. That YOU space not trying to put effort into make the efforts to make as lot gold together u can is no to reprimand in the video game im sorry.

 

Clan BG is a good way to get gold among the finest actually maybe shot it :) u get like 1-1.5k precious of moonstone in 2 hours.

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u"re mentioning such one unnecesary article in this game. But AGAIN if because that some factor its necesarry because that u to have actually it work-related for it. It"s not unreasonable. IDK i never looked into prices for gems yet if it"s only 15k im pretty surprised i thought it would certainly be more.